Talk:2017 Group Project 4
Student Projects: 1 Cerebral Cortex | 2 Kidney | 3 Heart | 4 Eye | 5 Lung | 6 Cerebellum |
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Student Page - here is the sample page I demonstrated with in the first labs.I remind all students that you have your own Group Forum on Moodle for your discussions, it is only accessible by members of your group. |
I have now added a discussion Forum for your group to Moodle. You can add your discussion here (available to everyone) or in your Moodle Group Discussion (available to only your group members).
The collapsible table below shows the assessment criteria that will be used for this group project.
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About the Discussion Page
This should be considered as the "other side" of the project page. It is an area where you can:
- Assemble resources.
- Add useful links.
- Discuss your project with team members. (Please do not use student names on any page on this Wiki)
- Paste your Peer Assessments. (Added anonymously, do not identify yourself)
Group talk
To do
- An introduction of what the page will go through
- Make sure all the required subjects are in the project ANAT2341 Lab 1
- Glossary list
- Maybe add videos
Work sites
z5177670: Lens, Ciliary Body, Iris, Cornea (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877117315000642, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1298807/pdf/taos00013-0203.pdf)
z5075778: Extraocular muscles and Retina
z5117343: Congenital Anomalies, Treatment, Diagnosis
z5075309: Cornea, Aqueous Chambers, Choroid and Sclera, Lacrimal Glands ([1])
Timeline
I tried making a timeline of how I understand the events in eye development. Please add components or change in the timeline if you disagree - it's just a draft :-)
Eyes development
Articles for general eye development
I found a few articles about the general eye development and thought I wanted to share them with you all. If we find some good references, please share it here on the page, so we can help each other :-)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK10024/ - Development of the Vertebrate Eye
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3504437/ - Eye Development and Retinogenesis
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0014483575900755?via%3Dihub - The prenatal development of the human eye
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10627820 - Lens development.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012160606014898?via%3Dihub - FGF-mediated induction of ciliary body tissue in the chick eye
http://dev.biologists.org/content/141/23/4432.long - The cellular and molecular mechanisms of vertebrate lens development
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014483510000448 - On the growth and internal structure of the human lens
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877117315000642 - Chapter Four - Corneal Development: Different Cells from a Common Progenitor
http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev.cellbio.17.1.255?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%3Dpubmed (Need permission for this article)
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.wwwproxy1.library.unsw.edu.au/doi/10.1002/ajmg.a.35713/full
https://www.aao.org/eye-health/diseases/what-is-coloboma
http://jmg.bmj.com/content/jmedgenet/41/12/881.full.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3126628/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5581554/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11826019/
Suggested Starting Places
Mark Hill (talk) 10:15, 14 August 2017 (AEST) OK Group 4 below are some starting places.
PubMed Searches: Eye Development | Vision Development
BMC Dev Biol Search: Eye Development
Recent papers
<pubmed limit=5>Eye+Development</pubmed>
- ↑ <pubmed>23528534</pubmed>
Peer Review
This is a well structured page, that approaches the eye from the basics. I like that the anatomy and underlying physiology of the eye is established before the developmental processes. Overview is brief and to the point, and the Embryonic Contributions table is an important aspect. Iris development could be expanded on, and more journal article images could be included. The "Opac figure" file does not have the correct Copyright notice. On the whole this is a very good page.
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The team should provide a brief description of what the images are on their page so readers will understand immediately what it is. The team could use some images to show Caregie Stages, but the section is yet to be completed. An explanation of the ‘Timeline of embryonic development’ table would be beneficial to help readers understand what the table is explaining. More resources could be used for the Anatomy of the Adult Eye so that the team has shown to have used a variety of sources and have done plenty of research. There are incomplete sections. The team could include current research and animal models as extra subheadings.
Subheadings and content that have been used show a good understanding of the topic area. The team has used their own images to display their learning. The references have been correctly cited. The use of tables helps readers understand what the content is about, and is easy to follow for readers. Some of the images have been cited correctly; they have references, copyright statements and the Student Image template. However, some of the images don’t have the Student Image template. The abnormalities subheading was done well with the use of images and references.
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Peer review project 4:
- The project does not feel like it is finished. A lot of work still needs to be done, and some of the subheadings like retina, cornea, eyelids, lacrimal glands etc is still empty.
- I did not find any sections describing signalling, research or future questions and animal models. I miss some more research content and a research angle to the project.
- The few parts of the development of the eye components which has been written was good. It was easy to understand and had good referencing.
- In general, the project could use more pictures to support the text.
- The anatomy part of the project was good. The drawing made it easier to understand, even though the picture captions and numbers are missing. I did not have any difficulties understanding it and they wrote it in a very clear way.
- I liked the overview of the eye development, it made it clear what is happening when, which cells comes from which germ layer and the Carnegie stage is a nice adding, even though it is not finished.
- The abnormal development section is far from finished. I think it is an important part of the project and it would improve the project if the anomalies where describe more in depth and not in a table.
- The glossary section was empty as well.
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Overall the project page looks good. I like that you have used a mix of student drawn diagrams and also paper derived ones. However, I do think that the ‘anterior eye’ drawing could be a little clearer, as it is a hard to tell what label corresponds to what. Also, the referencing for these I presume the original diagrams are from an anatomy book or something, this should be cited as a ‘based on…’ Stage 21 and 22 are missing and should be filled in with the accompanying information. Having a number of tables really helps convey some of the information in a succinct manner, I particularly like this approach in the congenital abnormalities section. In the ‘development of the eye components’ section some visual aids would be helpful otherwise there is just going to be a lot of text, and in order to keep the reader engaged, pictures or even animations would really help. Could have a wider list of references, but I imagine as information is added so will these be. Well done!
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Has good structure, and overall a good feel in the developmental process of the eye. However the page seems to be unfinished, since there are a lot of blank areas under the subheadings (Retina, Cornea, Aqueous Chambers, Choroid and Sclera, Eyelids, Lacrimal Glands) and tables. Use of tables (i.e Carnegie stages) were very helpful and makes the content easier to understand. Hand drawn images were also very well done and aids in understanding the content, however they need to be labelled with "taken from ...". Congenital anomalies section lacks information, perhaps each anomaly deserves its own subheading since it is a quite important part of the topic. Although references were done correctly, a lot of parts seem to be missing citations ("Supporting Structures" and "Anterior Structure" under Anatomy). Overall, well done so far!
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The page has an unfinished feel to it due to the lack of introduction, empty subheadings towards the end of the page and "this section is not done yet" written. Abnormalities is spelt incorrectly. Clever use of self drawn diagrams to avoid copyright issues, however I think it's better to use actual images from journals because some images are hard to understand, hard to read and don't look accurate- i was unaware the sclera, choroid and retina took up so much space in the vitreous humour. Id also advise to add images to show the developments of the embryonic eye, making it more appealing for the reader. Also adding images to the "Development of the eye components" section.
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Firstly those pointers under the heading Eye Development need to be deleted; I think they're just suggestions from Mark but if not you already have the subheadings at the top? An introduction to the human eye might ease into the topic a little better. You have done the anatomy of the adult eye really really well. The images you've drawn yourself to outline the structure is really good and there is an abundance of information, so I think this part is great! The timelines need to be completed, as you've stated otherwise they would be good timelines to follow as a basic structure for someone learning about fetal eye development. The information in the short overview is really good, however overview of what exactly? Make the heading more specific. The development of the eye components is really good however isn't complete. This section could, however, be improved by adding some images in to show the region of the eye you're talking about. The abnormalities section is good, however, I think you could refer to the figure instead of just having them below and a little more information on the description or consequences of the diseases would add more substance. The glossary also needs to be completed. Your referencing seems to be correct throughout. Overall good work the page just needs a few changes and more information!
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Reading through this page was very interesting and informative however I have a few points that could be adjusted to improve on your page. When inserting an image, adding a figure and brief description on the images would be useful. The timeline is good but there is no reference so it definitely needs one. When reading through all the other tables, references need to be used more as it isn't that easy to figure out what articles you have used to get your information. More work needs to be done to fill the headings under development of eye components and if more images were added it would be useful. Abnormalities could have a bit more of an explanation written as well. Your wiki page is looking good, I would suggest a heading on animal models would provide some good information and fit well with your page! I also haven’t read anything that tells us about signaling, this should have its own heading and should be explained quite well as it is an important part of development. With your figures, it would be nice if you referred to them throughout your text more, and integrated them with the headings. Although this page is a work in progress, the information written is useful and easy to understand.
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This page jumps straight into the “anatomy of the adult eye”. However, I would suggest a brief introduction (just a paragraph) on the eye, its development, its function and what this page will explore. I think the text under the subheading “anatomy of the adult eye” could be cut down or at least altered. For example, you would be good to bold some words so that they stand out – especially if they are mentioned in the diagrams. The timeline is a very brief overview of development which is probably good considered you have a more detailed table for the Carnegie stages. I would suggest that you add another column for images for the Carnegies stages once you’ve completed it. I think it’s good that you went into the specific development of the eye components but I think it would be more interesting if you added an image or diagram for each component. Also, you still need to complete the majority of the components in this section and when you do I would suggest you keep it at one to two paragraphs. The subheading, “Congenital anomalies”, is nice and succinct with the main anomalies outlined and images to visually represent each. However, I think here there is a bit of underrepresentation of the abnormalities. I feel like you could go into some more detail about each abnormality as other groups have done. The references could be extended to about 25 once you’ve filled in the empty parts. You might also want to add a “current research” subheading as it is relevant and shows how our understanding and knowledge of the eye’s development is always expanding.
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