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Has good structure, and overall a good feel in the developmental process of the eye. However the page seems to be unfinished, since there are a lot of blank areas under the subheadings and tables. Use of tables (i.e Carnegie stages) were very helpful and makes the content easier to understand. Hand drawn images were also very well done and aids in understanding the content, however they need to be labelled with "taken from ...". Abnormal development section is quite important and seems to be unfinished, so using more images as well as proper sentences instead of dot points in this section will improve the project by a lot. Overall, well done so far! | Has good structure, and overall a good feel in the developmental process of the eye. However the page seems to be unfinished, since there are a lot of blank areas under the subheadings and tables. Use of tables (i.e Carnegie stages) were very helpful and makes the content easier to understand. Hand drawn images were also very well done and aids in understanding the content, however they need to be labelled with "taken from ...". Abnormal development section is quite important and seems to be unfinished, so using more images as well as proper sentences instead of dot points in this section will improve the project by a lot. Overall, well done so far! | ||
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The page has an unfinished feel to it due to the lack of introduction, empty subheadings towards the end of the page and "this section is not done yet" written. Abnormalities is spelt incorrectly. Clever use of self drawn diagrams to avoid copyright issues, however I think it's better to use actual images from journals because some images are hard to understand, hard to read and don't look accurate- i was unaware the sclera, choroid and retina took up so much space in the vitreous humour. Id also advise to add images to show the developments of the embryonic eye, making it more appealing for the reader. Also adding images to the "Development of the eye components" section. |
Revision as of 16:13, 9 October 2017
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Student Page - here is the sample page I demonstrated with in the first labs.I remind all students that you have your own Group Forum on Moodle for your discussions, it is only accessible by members of your group. |
I have now added a discussion Forum for your group to Moodle. You can add your discussion here (available to everyone) or in your Moodle Group Discussion (available to only your group members).
The collapsible table below shows the assessment criteria that will be used for this group project.
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About the Discussion Page
This should be considered as the "other side" of the project page. It is an area where you can:
- Assemble resources.
- Add useful links.
- Discuss your project with team members. (Please do not use student names on any page on this Wiki)
- Paste your Peer Assessments. (Added anonymously, do not identify yourself)
Group talk
Work sites
z5177670: Lens, Ciliary Body, Iris, Cornea (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877117315000642, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1298807/pdf/taos00013-0203.pdf)
z5075778: Extraocular muscles and Retina
z5117343: Congenital Anomalies, Treatment, Diagnosis
z5075309: Cornea, Aqueous Chambers, Choroid and Sclera, Lacrimal Glands ([1])
Timeline
I tried making a timeline of how I understand the events in eye development. Please add components or change in the timeline if you disagree - it's just a draft :-)
Eyes development
Articles for general eye development
I found a few articles about the general eye development and thought I wanted to share them with you all. If we find some good references, please share it here on the page, so we can help each other :-)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK10024/ - Development of the Vertebrate Eye
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3504437/ - Eye Development and Retinogenesis
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0014483575900755?via%3Dihub - The prenatal development of the human eye
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10627820 - Lens development.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012160606014898?via%3Dihub - FGF-mediated induction of ciliary body tissue in the chick eye
http://dev.biologists.org/content/141/23/4432.long - The cellular and molecular mechanisms of vertebrate lens development
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014483510000448 - On the growth and internal structure of the human lens
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877117315000642 - Chapter Four - Corneal Development: Different Cells from a Common Progenitor
http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev.cellbio.17.1.255?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%3Dpubmed (Need permission for this article)
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.wwwproxy1.library.unsw.edu.au/doi/10.1002/ajmg.a.35713/full
https://www.aao.org/eye-health/diseases/what-is-coloboma
http://jmg.bmj.com/content/jmedgenet/41/12/881.full.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3126628/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5581554/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11826019/
Suggested Starting Places
Mark Hill (talk) 10:15, 14 August 2017 (AEST) OK Group 4 below are some starting places.
PubMed Searches: Eye Development | Vision Development
BMC Dev Biol Search: Eye Development
Recent papers
<pubmed limit=5>Eye+Development</pubmed>
- ↑ <pubmed>23528534</pubmed>
Peer Review
This is a well structured page, that approaches the eye from the basics. I like that the anatomy and underlying physiology of the eye is established before the developmental processes. Overview is brief and to the point, and the Embryonic Contributions table is an important aspect. Iris development could be expanded on, and more journal article images could be included. The "Opac figure" file does not have the correct Copyright notice. On the whole this is a very good page.
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The team should provide a brief description of what the images are on their page so readers will understand immediately what it is. The team could use some images to show Caregie Stages, but the section is yet to be completed. An explanation of the ‘Timeline of embryonic development’ table would be beneficial to help readers understand what the table is explaining. More resources could be used for the Anatomy of the Adult Eye so that the team has shown to have used a variety of sources and have done plenty of research. There are incomplete sections. The team could include current research and animal models as extra subheadings.
Subheadings and content that have been used show a good understanding of the topic area. The team has used their own images to display their learning. The references have been correctly cited. The use of tables helps readers understand what the content is about, and is easy to follow for readers. Some of the images have been cited correctly; they have references, copyright statements and the Student Image template. However, some of the images don’t have the Student Image template. The abnormalities subheading was done well with the use of images and references.
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Peer review project 4:
- The project does not feel like it is finished. A lot of work still needs to be done, and some of the subheadings like retina, cornea, eyelids, lacrimal glands etc is still empty.
- I did not find any sections describing signalling, research or future questions and animal models. I miss some more research content and a research angle to the project.
- The few parts of the development of the eye components which has been written was good. It was easy to understand and had good referencing.
- In general, the project could use more pictures to support the text.
- The anatomy part of the project was good. The drawing made it easier to understand, even though the picture captions and numbers are missing. I did not have any difficulties understanding it and they wrote it in a very clear way.
- I liked the overview of the eye development, it made it clear what is happening when, which cells comes from which germ layer and the Carnegie stage is a nice adding, even though it is not finished.
- The abnormal development section is far from finished. I think it is an important part of the project and it would improve the project if the anomalies where describe more in depth and not in a table.
- The glossary section was empty as well.
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Overall the project page looks good. I like that you have used a mix of student drawn diagrams and also paper derived ones. However, I do think that the ‘anterior eye’ drawing could be a little clearer, as it is a hard to tell what label corresponds to what. Also, the referencing for these I presume the original diagrams are from an anatomy book or something, this should be cited as a ‘based on…’ Stage 21 and 22 are missing and should be filled in with the accompanying information. Having a number of tables really helps convey some of the information in a succinct manner, I particularly like this approach in the congenital abnormalities section. In the ‘development of the eye components’ section some visual aids would be helpful otherwise there is just going to be a lot of text, and in order to keep the reader engaged, pictures or even animations would really help. Could have a wider list of references, but I imagine as information is added so will these be. Well done!
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Has good structure, and overall a good feel in the developmental process of the eye. However the page seems to be unfinished, since there are a lot of blank areas under the subheadings and tables. Use of tables (i.e Carnegie stages) were very helpful and makes the content easier to understand. Hand drawn images were also very well done and aids in understanding the content, however they need to be labelled with "taken from ...". Abnormal development section is quite important and seems to be unfinished, so using more images as well as proper sentences instead of dot points in this section will improve the project by a lot. Overall, well done so far!
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The page has an unfinished feel to it due to the lack of introduction, empty subheadings towards the end of the page and "this section is not done yet" written. Abnormalities is spelt incorrectly. Clever use of self drawn diagrams to avoid copyright issues, however I think it's better to use actual images from journals because some images are hard to understand, hard to read and don't look accurate- i was unaware the sclera, choroid and retina took up so much space in the vitreous humour. Id also advise to add images to show the developments of the embryonic eye, making it more appealing for the reader. Also adding images to the "Development of the eye components" section.