Talk:2009 Group Project 4

--Mark Hill 01:46, 8 September 2009 (EST) Well the content is there now, but what a mess, and I am not just talking about the formatting problem which can be easily fixed, you have no structure to your project, its not a matter of throwing everything at a wall and seeing what sticks. Work together for an integrated coverage. Timeline of development, is not the way to start your page with a huge table of data.

--Mark Hill 08:43, 21 August 2009 (EST) OK guys, time to see some actual content uploaded on both your discussion and project pages.

   * Timeline of Development - how long (Emily)
   * Staging - are there species specific staging, what occurs when (Elide)
   * History of Model Use - when was it first used, what embryology research (Begum)
   * Genetics - chromosome number, sequencing (Angama)
   * Current Embryology Research - research papers and findings (All)

Here is a link for timeline [http://books.google.com.au/books?id=XLIarRWHikAC&pg=PT199&lpg=PT199&dq=mouse+embryo+development+timeline&source=bl&ots=fobLBRiacx&sig=cK4cuZah6Ksczs3o8v4NXQqoAyk&hl=en&ei=rGB6SvTHMMmIkAXB_piAAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#v=onepage&q=&f=false ]

link for the mouse brain development timeline http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_brain_development_timeline

hey guys there is another interesting link about mouse development http://mouseatlas.caltech.edu/index_content.html

Hey Emily. The link below has a timeline that you can check out in your spare time. Begum. [1]

Hi girls, here is a link to a text book about mouse embryology it looks pretty good. hope it can help [2] let me know if the link doesnt work. Ive been working on the main page, so have a look and tell me what you think, Also what are we doing about references? If we have used information but put it in our own words do we need to put in text citations,or do we just reference the journal at the end? I just want to be very careful. Thanks!

Hey Elide, i think your work is looking really good. its very easy to read and understand. keep going!!!! emily

hey everyone, I have uploaded some of my timeline work. I'm not sure if I've gone into to much detail or not and also on how is best to present the timeline. It is fairly basic and definately needs some work - especially on presentation, grammar, etc. let me know what you think. Emily

 good site for stages or timeline- atlas of pictures of stages- The Edinburgh Mouse Atlas Project [3]

Hello girls, it's Begum. I put some info under the history section. Wanted to let you all know that I've got a fair bit of info, and I will do my part as best as I can. Btw Emily, I think maybe dot from would be best for you, but if you can use those lines that I was talking to you about on Wednesday, that would be great...I know it's hard.

hey everyone, i have put some info under the genetics heading and some under research. I am still struggling to find the appropriate info related to the topic of genetics because there is alot of info abt the different types of stains used in labarotories but not the genetics. I emailed Dr.Hill and have asked him what to include in my section specifically,hopefully he will help. So far i have just started it needs alot of more work to be done,girls just read thru my section n leme know wt u think of it. have a nice weekend everyone. Angama.

Hi girls! Begum, you history info is really good. If very interesting! I really like how you are doing it in order of dates of discovery and what they did, what they found etc! Cant wait to know more. Angama, your doing well! it sounds like your finding the info hard to get. I'll keep an eye out for you! If your stuck on what you sound be doing then i might have a few ideas. I remember Mark Hill saying that you should compare the genome to the humans genome. so maybe if the genome is the same size as the humans, could you descibe similarities or differences? I know that there is a link to the mouse genome on the mouse web page he gave us ( next to the discussion link). Are you just ment to list the mouse genome sequence? could you go into what genes code what, eg which one codes for the sex linked gene, is it the X and Y gene etc? hopefully Mark gives you some ideas. well as you might have noticed i've been adding to my stages. the only thing is im worried about there being too much info up there. basically ive tried to get all the info available included in my stages to make sure i cover everything, and then later i'll go over it all and edit and polish it up a bit. Ive done some drawings to the best of my ability, but i can scrap them if you all think they arnt professional enough. just thought i'd try to present the information differently. let me know if you think i'm including too much information. i think i'm having the same problem as you begum, there is lots of info! Elide

Thanks Elide. I'm trying. (Again, loved the artwork!)Btw, Emily, I had a think about your section and I think it might be too much 'clicking' back-and-forth if we link the displayed pic to the 'info' page. Don't stress, you've got the info (heaps which is excellent) but make sure you get some pictures soon so we can start drawing (I'm helping with the drawings as well ok). Mark said 'Nature' and 'Science' have useable images so lets make that our start. BTW, I will be using the question mark symbol(???) so I don't forget to reference. Begum

Hey everyone, I have found an online text book. it has a chapter on genetics and history and a lot of other stuff. [4] Emily

Hey girls. If you've seen my section, the info is not on the main page, but linked to another page. I thought that it might make everything look more neat. I thought we could all do it like that. It's just an idea. Something different. Maybe we could have something on the main page (picture of a mouse). Your thoughts everybody? Begum

hey begum, ur work looks really good. i like the idea of linking the work to another page. - we don't have to worry about to much info being on the front page and it gives people to option of viewing the work if they want to. ive been working on drawings, i'll show them to you next week but am not sure how to upload them at the moment. Emily

Thanks! That sounds great that you like the idea. About the photos that you are drawing, if there by hand, you can scan them somehow. But overall, 1. click 'Upload File' on the left hand side of this page 2. New page comes up: click 'Browse' and choose your file that you want to upload. 3. Name it (under the Browse button) NOTE: write down what you named the file as because like Elide says "...it's going to be lost in space!..." 4. Write down info/comments (like who is the author (YOU), and if the drawing is based on a picture) 5. UPLOAD! 6. Go to your section and just normally type this down to the area you want the picture to be seen:

File:THE NAME THAT YOU SAVED THE FILE UNDER.jpg

WHAT YOU WANT THE FILE NAME TO VISUALLY COME UP AS

And Emily, the assignment is due next week, so try to finish your work this week, it might be due on Monday! Well will it be? Begum. Your thoughts Angama and Elide? (about the linking of our sections to separate pages?)