Talk:2014 Group Project 5
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Project Analysis 24 Sep |
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--Mark Hill (talk) 09:57, 24 September 2014 (EST) Individual student data for each group has also been analysed. |
--Mark Hill (talk) 09:57, 24 September 2014 (EST) I have masked student ID.
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2014 Student Projects: Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Group 4 | Group 5 | Group 6 | Group 7 | Group 8
--Mark Hill (talk) 17:54, 31 October 2014 (EST) These student projects have now been finalised and undergoing final assessment.
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Week 5
Hey guys!! I found some research material that we can use to construct our time line!
Historic information is hard to find! I might go look at some text books in the library --Z3418340 (talk) 12:50, 27 August 2014 (EST) How is everyone else going?
--Z3417843 (talk) 12:52, 27 August 2014 (EST) Hey!! That's great! I also found some material for abnormalities. There seem to be a lot about septal defects. I'm gonna try to look up for more defects.
--Z3417843 (talk) 22:53, 30 August 2014 (EST)Woo!! Nice to see more links in the page! Rehmina and I also thought that it would be easier for marking if one of the two people in current research do timeline instead because that would make marking easier and less confusing. But that's not final, it's only a suggestion. Also, Dr. Hill gave us some tips on what to focus/include in our research such as:
- Remodelling during the fetal period
- Changes during ossification - haematopoietic elocution from liver to bone marrow
- Early development of WBCs — hot topic right now!!
Hey everyone, yeah that sounds good with me.. :) so rather each person focuses on 1 of the 4 topics right? --Z3417796 (talk) 12:35, 31 August 2014 (EST)
--Z3417843 (talk) 18:36, 1 September 2014 (EST)Yep, exactly! I'm really glad that's alright with you but we can still talk about more in the lab.
--Z3417843 (talk) 12:14, 2 September 2014 (EST)Hey everyone! I just asked Dr. Hill about using review articles. He said it's alright to use review articles as long as you say that the information came from a review article when citing. We can also use images from review articles and there is no need to say that it came from a review article.
Week 6
--Z3418488 (talk) 20:19, 3 September 2014 (EST)Hey guys, I had a good talk with Mark today after the lab. Since we're doing the Cardiovascular system, it incorporates the (i) development of the heart, (ii) development of the blood vessels and (iii) the formation of red blood cells/white blood cells. But Mark said that as a group, we would be able to create and produce this web-site in a manner that we thought was appropriate. We could focus on one of the specific areas or more broadly on each area, if we chose to. But, MOST IMPORTANTLY, our project should be cohesive. What we talk about should be introduced well at the start and should be cohesive through out all of the subsections that we're working on. He really stressed the importance of us having a single, unified vision of our end product and that it should be succinct throughout it all. Im proposing that we actually decide what to focus on very soon.
- --Z3418488 (talk) 20:19, 3 September 2014 (EST) I'd particularly like to just focus on the development of the heart? Maybe incorporate the formation of blood cells if the research in the other areas is interesting and notable?
--Z3418488 (talk) 20:24, 3 September 2014 (EST)In regards to the use of the textbook, we are allowed to use the information from it if we cite it properly, but he really want us to be using articles (and even Review articles) to discuss our information.
I agree, the heart should remain our focus, but of course other aspects such as blood vessel formation/ blood cells would naturally fall into it as well- maybe just a brief mention wherever appropriate? --Z3417796 (talk) 21:22, 3 September 2014 (EST)
Week 7
--Z3417843 (talk) 21:05, 8 September 2014 (EST) Hmm. I agree. Let's try and focus on the heart for now and see how we go? And if time permits, maybe we will be able to include the development of blood vessels and blood cells. Sorry I didn't reply so soon, kinda busy week for me haha!
- --Z3418488 (talk) 00:24, 10 September 2014 (EST)Ok that sounds really good and reasonable! I'd be happy to follow that plan. And yeah, same! Very busy week for me as well! But yeah, I think lets just focus and refine our research to just the development of the heart at the moment
--Z3418488 (talk) 00:40, 10 September 2014 (EST)Hey guys, Im having difficulty knowing whether the use of an article is fine or not?! If it says "Full-free-text" does that mean we're allowed to incoporate it? Because a lot of the copyright information, is very brief. Thanks heaps, if you guys know an answer haha
- --Z3418488 (talk) 00:55, 10 September 2014 (EST)Ok, never mind.. I find out the answer haha. If it says "Open-Access" or "Full-free-text" it is only free to read online and may/may not be allowed for re-use. You'; have to read carefully or apply for permission lol. I guess i'll just be sticking to mainly the Public Library of Science (PLoS), Biomed central (BMC) and Springer Open... which we are pretty much able to use, with the right referencing and acknowledgement. I read this on the 'Copy rights' page on this wiki. http://php.med.unsw.edu.au/embryology/index.php?title=Help:Copyright_Tutorial. Can someone verify or correct me if i'm wrong haha?
--Z3417843 (talk) 11:56, 10 September 2014 (EST) I thought copyright only applied on images and not on content. It would be really difficult to write a report when the most papers have copyright. We can ask Dr. Hill in the lab just to confirm.
Week 8
--Z3417796 (talk) 12:56, 17 September 2014 (EST) Hey guys, so Carl and I had a talk with Dr. Hill and he has agreed to allow us to change topics from Cardio to Integumentary. To finalise the change all members have to personally email him saying we all agree to the topic change. Carl and I have started thinking about our approach to the topic and we think we should have a main focus on skin and smaller sub-topics on hair, nails, glands and teeth. Each members role just remains the same and any problems we will all still help eachother :)