Talk:2014 Group Project 6

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  1. The key points relating to the topic that your group allocated are clearly described.
  2. The choice of content, headings and sub-headings, diagrams, tables, graphs show a good understanding of the topic area.
  3. Content is correctly cited and referenced.
  4. The wiki has an element of teaching at a peer level using the student's own innovative diagrams, tables or figures and/or using interesting examples or explanations.
  5. Evidence of significant research relating to basic and applied sciences that goes beyond the formal teaching activities.
  6. Relates the topic and content of the Wiki entry to learning aims of embryology.
  7. Clearly reflects on editing/feedback from group peers and articulates how the Wiki could be improved (or not) based on peer comments/feedback. Demonstrates an ability to review own work when criticised in an open edited wiki format. Reflects on what was learned from the process of editing a peer's wiki.
  8. Evaluates own performance and that of group peers to give a rounded summary of this wiki process in terms of group effort and achievement.
  9. The content of the wiki should demonstrate to the reader that your group has researched adequately on this topic and covered the key areas necessary to inform your peers in their learning.
  10. Develops and edits the wiki entries in accordance with the above guidelines.
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Project Analysis 24 Sep
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--Mark Hill (talk) 09:57, 24 September 2014 (EST) Individual student data for each group has also been analysed.

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--Mark Hill (talk) 09:57, 24 September 2014 (EST) I have masked student ID.

  • Individual students will know how much work you have been doing to date.
  • I will be contacting those student on 5 edits or below.

2014 Student Projects: Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Group 4 | Group 5 | Group 6 | Group 7 | Group 8


--Mark Hill (talk) 17:54, 31 October 2014 (EST) These student projects have now been finalised and undergoing final assessment.

Group Assessment Criteria
  1. The key points relating to the topic that your group allocated are clearly described.
  2. The choice of content, headings and sub-headings, diagrams, tables, graphs show a good understanding of the topic area.
  3. Content is correctly cited and referenced.
  4. The wiki has an element of teaching at a peer level using the student's own innovative diagrams, tables or figures and/or using interesting examples or explanations.
  5. Evidence of significant research relating to basic and applied sciences that goes beyond the formal teaching activities.
  6. Relates the topic and content of the Wiki entry to learning aims of embryology.
  7. Clearly reflects on editing/feedback from group peers and articulates how the Wiki could be improved (or not) based on peer comments/feedback. Demonstrates an ability to review own work when criticised in an open edited wiki format. Reflects on what was learned from the process of editing a peer's wiki.
  8. Evaluates own performance and that of group peers to give a rounded summary of this wiki process in terms of group effort and achievement.
  9. The content of the wiki should demonstrate to the reader that your group has researched adequately on this topic and covered the key areas necessary to inform your peers in their learning.
  10. Develops and edits the wiki entries in accordance with the above guidelines.

Peer Reviews

Great job on doing the endocrine system! There are lots of content for each organ of this system, which is good. I can see that this system was broken down into organs and allocated to different members. The only problem I see with this format is that presentation could be incoherent. I suggest try to follow the outline Dr. Hill gave us like development, current findings, etc. and just break each section into sub-sections for each organ. If that’s too much, then maybe just a single timeline of the development of the whole system. Also try to have a uniform layout for the tables about the hormones secreted by each gland.

There aren’t many images used in the page so maybe try to add more images. They really help with getting the readers to understand the information. In terms of referencing and citations, good job on choosing the research articles. All of them seem to be relevant to the the project. Don’t forget to use in-text citations. Not only is it important but it will make the page look a lot cleaner. Also, try to get all the references into one bulk at the bottom of the page. Overall, there aren’t a lot of problems in terms of the content but mainly about organising the page, making it coherent, and cleaning it up. I think the thyroid, parathyroid, pancreas, and adrenal sections were remarkable. Well done!


Group Project 6 – Endocrine Development

An introduction could be very useful to summarise what the page is going to discuss. Sections 1.2-1.11 could all be subheadings under the main heading ‘System Development’, and then each of these subheading could be further divided into smaller subheadings with timeline, introduction detailing structure/ function of the endocrine organ. It is however very well done how the headings of each organ are then further subdivided into ‘abnormalities’, ‘research findings’ and ‘timeline’. However, the fact that each section has its own references and is subdivided as such, shows that even though the page may appear more ordered, there appears to be little communication between group members at this stage. So perhaps a goal could be to make the page look like one flowing work piece as opposed to sections that each person has done.

I think the content is very well researched and I like the way each organ of the endocrine system is discussed, as all are important in fetal development. The use of images is appropriate and very well done as they are referenced correctly and when you click on an image it takes you to a new page showing the student image template, copyright information as well as extra information regarding the image. There are no student-drawn images however, so perhaps it could be possible to draw a flow chart perhaps of gonadal fetal development. The use of tables is also done very well and is frequent throughout the page, with some being used to illustrate the anatomical development of certain organs, for example, the adrenal gland and pancreas. The graphs are also useful in portraying information from research findings.

The project page is missing information regarding historic findings, and I think that if this page is going to have a main heading for Abnormalities, then the group should put all their information regarding abnormalities under this section. Although it is not an endocrine organ that grows within the developing foetus, but is an important part of the mother, there is not much information on the page regarding the placenta. This section needs to be completed as the placenta is an important source of hormones and acts as an endocrine organ during the pregnancy, sustaining the foetus.

It is good that there are many references, indicating thorough research into the endocrine system with each organ heading have its own sources, however I think these references need to be ordered better. The actual referencing is done correctly, however in-text referencing is absent, so it may be best to fix this. Most images are referenced correctly as well.

Overall, keep up the good work, but just edit the page to make it look neater and finish the sections you need to.


At first glance, a lot of sections seem to be incomplete. On second glance, I’ve noticed that you have added all the headings used by other groups (timeline, current findings, abnormalities) as subheadings for your own project, which I think it a really smart idea. Because you have so many glands that need to be covered, writing these sections separately can be confusing with the information quickly becoming muddled up. Doing it this way eliminates that confusion.

Make sure the use of tables is appropriate, using a table for one row of info is kind of pointless (pineal gland). The timelines used should also start with the week number, otherwise it can be quite confusing trying to work out the time (e.g. try not to say times such as ‘by the second trimester’). The information presented was concise and to the point, no long-winded explanations or slabs of text which was good. The images used were relevant and captioned.

Concerning the work completed, overall it was done well. A lot more work still needs to be completed however. References should also be made in text. If you are unsure how to do this, just go into edit mode in another group’s project and see how they have done it, instead of listing all the references at the bottom of the corresponding section. Make sure all the references are also presented at the bottom of the page, not separated into sections. It would also be nice if more images are used, if not one image for every gland then at least one for every second gland mentioned (it just needs more images).


There seems to be no introduction on the page, don’t forget to add content to this section before the final submission. The overall page looks disjointed by the choice of sub-headings. I think an overall timeline is needed to know which glands/organs develop when and originate from where. It would look much neater and would be easier to follow.

The parathyroid gland and pancreas seems to be the only sections that are properly completed. Both sections have good use of images and the tables provide easy readability. The images are all properly cited, good job.

The overall referencing of the page is all over the place and lacks in-text citations. I suggest you go through the contents and add these where necessary. If you are unsure how to do this, just look at the handout Mark gave out in week 2 for further reference. Or, alternatively you could look at some of the other project pages in edit mode. I would also suggest you leave all the references to the end of the page by simply putting </references> at the bottom of the page, as it looks neater to have them all in one place, rather than at the bottom of each sub-heading.

The abnormalities section is lacking content and there is only 2 diseases listed, with no description.

Overall, the page has good content, just needs to be edited to put in-text referencing. Some sections need contents such as the placenta and adding images to the page will also improve its presentation.


So far you have made a good start. The introduction is a really important part of the project so it’s important that you get that down. The pineal gland part has made a good start but it would be good if some more hormones could be added. I think it would be good maybe if you all combined all of your times line and put them at the top of the page. You could maybe do this in a table form, but it’s certainly something that would make the project more succinct. Also instead of having references spread all over the page it would be a good idea to put the all of them at the page to make the page look more neat and tidy.

The hypothalamus part also needs to add extra information on the hormone part and add their illustration. I think it may be a good idea to add a student image because this makes the page more interesting and people looking at the page will be instantly attracted to this. Something that is really important and goes for the whole page is that you need to do in text referencing, as having the references at the end of the writing is tough because we don’t know which parts came from where.

Its good that there is recent findings in the hypothalamus part but I think this probably highlights the biggest issue with your project, being that It probably doesn’t link with all parts that well. I think it would be good if you could link all parts of the endocrine system together to make it easier to understand. For example, if you put the recent findings as a whole new part then everyone puts their recent findings in there it will make it easier to understand and look more collaborative. Also there is an imbalance in written information to pictures which tips in favor of the information. While it’s great to have a lot of information it becomes a bit boring just reading all the time so I think adding more images, particularly student drawn images would be something that would definitely improve the page.

Overall it has been a good start but the main points that need to be focused on are to finish off the information, make sure you correctly reference with in text citations and putting the references at the end of the page, and adding more images to make it more interesting. Good luck with the rest of the project.

Group Project Topic - Endocrine

--Z3414648 (talk) 11:17, 20 August 2014 (EST) We have chosen our group project to be on the endocrine system.

--Z3418702 (talk) 13:07, 20 August 2014 (EST) We have decided to allocate 2 topics (endocrine organs) to each group member. We will go and research each and look for research articles and then figure out the best way to structure the content.

--Z3414648 (talk) 12:19, 26 August 2014 (EST) This is a draft allocation for research topics for our project. Janaki - Pineal, Hypothalamus. Ali (z3414648)- Pituitary, thyroid. Samrah (z3418837) - parathyroid, thymus, pancreas. Ruth - Adrenal, gonad, placenta. Samrah and Ruth if there is heaps to do on those three parts that i've allocated just let Janaki and I know and we can also help out. If anyones topics are sparse on info also let us know and we can reshuffle the allocations

--Z3418698 (talk) 22:02, 26 August 2014 (EST) Hey guys, I was thinking we should maybe have a heading 'Recent findings' for maybe a few of the topics and have a short, brief summary of any new developments. I think it would be really interesting!

--Z3418702 (talk) 00:00, 27 August 2014 (EST) That's a good idea, should we put a separate section on recent findings, or just some information on recent findings under each section? Also we need historical findings

--Z3418837 (talk) 00:44, 27 August 2014 (EST)Hey guys, it's better to post student numbers to the parts allocated to each group member so it's easier for the tutor to mark. I would do this but i'm not sure about who is who :P Also I like the idea of recent findings. I think it's also better to post articles related to the recent findings and abnormalities as we go along as this will make it easier instead of leaving it to the end. For now, I think we should just post up as many articles related to each topic as possible and then figure out how to structure the content.

--Z3414648 (talk) 21:22, 2 September 2014 (EST) Hey guys, I've done some research on the prenatal development of the thyroid gland so I'll add that to my section. We can always change it up later.

I also found this review article that goes into a lot of detail about the pituitary gland. It explains the cellular differentiation involved to create the cells responsible for manufacturing hormones like ACTH. There is a lot of complex gene involvement but I was thinking we could condense a lot of the information into a table. I suggest you guys do that for your organs too rather than having a lot of jargon on our page that only an advanced biochemist will understand.

<pubmed>22872762</pubmed>

--Z3414648 (talk) 10:09, 9 September 2014 (EST) Hey i found a great article on normal and abnormal thyroid development and it's given me a lot of great information for the timeline part. <pubmed>10.1016/j.beem.2013.08.005</pubmed>


--Z3418698 (talk) 12:44, 10 September 2014 (EST)We are going to incorporate the Timeline and Abnormalities under each individual sub heading rather than at the end of the page. We are also going to find image links and post them in the discussion page before uploading them. We are also going to tabulate the hormones released by the glands under the subheadings. This will summarise the function of the glands in the embryo and how they contribute to fetal development.

--Z3418702 (talk) 00:46, 17 September 2014 (EST) Hi guys, I've added some info about adrenal development through gestation, at this stage some simple dot points which will probably be expanded upon later. There is a lot of content about the cell morphology at different weeks but I'm not sure as yet whether it's necessary to include that level of detail?

--Z3414648 (talk) 12:59, 17 September 2014 (EST) Hey guys, i found this link for an image that i'm thinking of using on the project. It's from PLOSone which is good because it's free to use those images. This is the link for it: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0016752

--Z3418698 (talk) 13:06, 17 September 2014 (EST) Hey guys, I found this image I wanted to use for hypothalamus development in a rodent, it basically illustrates the different nuclei in the hypothalamus once it it fully developed but I will be focusing on those that are present during development and the role of hormones each of them releases. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2082685/figure/fig1/

--Z3418702 (talk) 23:50, 23 September 2014 (EST)--Z3418702 (talk) 23:50, 23 September 2014 (EST) Hi guys, I think I might use this image (figure 3), it's from the PLoS too so totally fine to re-use and shows the fetal adrenal gland using 3 different techniques, like MRI, gross imaging and histological stain. I like it because it shows the gland from different perspectives. I'll upload it soon but here's the link: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0075511

--Z3418837 (talk) 03:29, 24 September 2014 (EST) I might use this image for the pancreas section http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0007739 . It basicallys shows the development of the islet of langerhans and the ratio of alpha & beta cells at different phases of fetal development. Also Z3418698, I don't think that image can be used as it has copyright restrictions. Try looking in Plos One =]


  • Firstly, props on choosing the endocrine system. It seems like one of the harder ones to take on
  • I don't understand why you chose to divide tasks based on endocrine organs as that has seemed to cause your research to become really disjointed. I guess now work harder to collaborate your separate findings particularly for things like having 1 united timeline overview
  • Ensure uniformity throughout the page with little things like is it "fetal" or "foetal"? Choose one then go with it
  • Maybe have labels for tables more distinguished as being separate to the main text
  • Include the references throughout discussion, rather than a collection at the end of each section. Then have the entire reference list at the bottom like all the other pages have. You can look at the "edit" of other pages to copy and paste the codes
  • Your timeline isn't really a timeline if there are no times mentioned in the "pineal gland" section. Try using a week-by-week format and separating information that way for all of your findings altogether. Then format that into a table
  • Proofread for typos "Abnormalities" in "pineal gland" section
  • Need more images for earlier sections
  • Great formatting of images and tables for the adrenal gland, parathyroid and pancreas sections