Talk:2014 Group Project 3

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Project Analysis 24 Sep
--Mark Hill (talk) 09:57, 24 September 2014 (EST) Individual student data for each group has also been analysed.
--Mark Hill (talk) 09:57, 24 September 2014 (EST) I have masked student ID. Individual students will know how much work you have been doing to date. I will be contacting those student on 5 edits or below.

2014 Student Projects: Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Group 4 | Group 5 | Group 6 | Group 7 | Group 8

--Mark Hill (talk) 17:54, 31 October 2014 (EST) These student projects have now been finalised and undergoing final assessment.

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The key points relating to the topic that your group allocated are clearly described. The choice of content, headings and sub-headings, diagrams, tables, graphs show a good understanding of the topic area. Content is correctly cited and referenced. The wiki has an element of teaching at a peer level using the student's own innovative diagrams, tables or figures and/or using interesting examples or explanations. Evidence of significant research relating to basic and applied sciences that goes beyond the formal teaching activities. Relates the topic and content of the Wiki entry to learning aims of embryology. Clearly reflects on editing/feedback from group peers and articulates how the Wiki could be improved (or not) based on peer comments/feedback. Demonstrates an ability to review own work when criticised in an open edited wiki format. Reflects on what was learned from the process of editing a peer's wiki. Evaluates own performance and that of group peers to give a rounded summary of this wiki process in terms of group effort and achievement. The content of the wiki should demonstrate to the reader that your group has researched adequately on this topic and covered the key areas necessary to inform your peers in their learning. Develops and edits the wiki entries in accordance with the above guidelines.

--Z3414515 (talk) 20:38, 13 August 2014 (EST)

Alright so lets choose a topic quickly before it gets taken. I would like all of you to post 3 topics that you would like to do (here) in order of importance and the topic that gets chosen the most will win. This is the only way I could think of in order to decide, so sorry. By the way Cardiovascular is taken so we cannot do that any more. My three choices are: Gastrointestinal System, Immune System and Placenta. What are yours?

i choose renal, head and neck, GIT --Z3415242 (talk) 22:22, 14 August 2014 (EST)

Im thinking GIT. Everyone so far has said GIT so I reckon that might be the best option as i think it will be relatively easy to understand and follow with the whole mid gut, hind gut formation ect. --Z3415141 (talk) 12:58, 15 August 2014 (EST)

--Mark Hill (talk) 10:16, 16 August 2014 (EST) I have just reformatted your project page heading as the major heading (single =) and capitalised the words). All page sub-heading (two ==).

z3415141: I am going to be looking up research of the midgut.--Z3415141 (talk) 13:08, 20 August 2014 (EST)

I choose to research on abnormalities of the GIT system--Z3415242 (talk) 13:14, 20 August 2014 (EST)

z3375627: I'm going to be doing Hind gut development research --Z3375627 (talk) 13:10, 20 August 2014 (EST)

z3414515: I will be researching foregut. --Z3414515 (talk) 13:12, 20 August 2014 (EST)

Alright people lets get some work done on this project. I hope everyone could at least write up few paragraphs on their chosen section by Tuesday. Thanks :) --Z3414515 (talk) 22:18, 30 August 2014 (EST)

--Mark Hill (talk) 22:47, 30 August 2014 (EST) I agree, times a wasting. While you have met the required addition of references, tarts all that is currently on your project page.

--Z3414515 (talk) 12:23, 2 September 2014 (EST)The reference below might help you guys. <pubmed>12943221</pubmed> --Z3414515 (talk) 12:23, 2 September 2014 (EST)

Is it only me or is everyone finding it hard to differentiate between embryo and fetal development?--Z3414515 (talk) 12:23, 2 September 2014 (EST)

Yeh I agree there are so many times where they talk about it as one in the same thing. Just have to read really carefully as we don't want to cross over. --Z3415141 (talk) 14:46, 2 September 2014 (EST)

Also with what you have written so far about the oesophagus, it looks good but what are you doing about referencing. Are you just keeping a list that you will put down later or are you getting the information from the resources that you found last week?? --Z3415141 (talk) 14:53, 2 September 2014 (EST)

I have my references saved on my laptop so when the time comes I can relate the information to specific reference. How are you coming along with your research so far?--Z3414515 (talk) 00:08, 3 September 2014 (EST)

Just been reading heaps to make sure I get the information right. I'm trying to get a really good understanding of the midgut rotation as I believe it is a critical part in the development of the ftus. --Z3415141 (talk) 09:31, 3 September 2014 (EST)

I am still waiting for some information from z3375627 and z3415242. Common people get moving!!! Also I meant that in the nicest way possible :) --Z3414515 (talk) 10:52, 3 September 2014 (EST)

I have found a picture to go with the adnormality that i am doing however i will not upload it until everyone is ok with it. I will work to add on the first abnormality i have started and done and continue to research on a second one. If i come across any useful articles for you guys i will post it on this. --Z3415242 (talk) 19:02, 9 September 2014 (EST)

Show the group in class your image so we can discuss on it. Also I know everyone must be busy with mid semester exams or assessments so I appreciate the effort you guys are putting in so far. BUT do remember as soon as the mid semester exams are over we need to pick up the pace or pull up our socks for this embryology project. --Z3414515 (talk) 09:27, 10 September 2014 (EST)

Common people lets get a move on. I have put up some information on my section though it is on the embryo period, the fetal period is in progress and in detail. The embryo period is only there as a guideline to understand how the stomach actually attains its shape. --Z3414515 (talk) 12:47, 16 September 2014 (EST)

i have come across some research articles on omphalocele (abnormality occurs in week 10-12 YAY ) just reading through them as they are pretty long and abit difficult understanding so i'm trying to put some stuff into a paragraph or two will try and upload the stuff for it by this week sometime. cheers --Z3415242 (talk) 21:50, 16 September 2014 (EST)

Alright this is the week to really get a good chunk of it done now that most of our mid sems are over. Not sure if anyone else has any good youtube videos, but because we only get one I'm gonna put this one out there relating to midgut rotation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AscKR_cQExY --Z3415141 (talk) 08:09, 17 September 2014 (EST)

Also we need to start our list of references so I reckon we just put them down under this heading. Leave the references at the bottom of the page ie. write above the heading references.--Z3415141 (talk) 08:18, 17 September 2014 (EST)

i found a simple sketch drawing of omphalocele just so we have some picture on our page but i don't want to put it on the page yet incase you guys don't like i and since we cant delete it once its up so after your approval i will put it up also i am trying to find good video on organ development since im sure alot are formed by week 10 as i have read in articlese. --Z3415242 (talk) 00:42, 24 September 2014 (EST)

Apologies with my lack of input on this. I’ve added a bit of the Cloacal partitioning and deformities that I’ll expand upon. I’ve also found some great pictures on some of the other GIT deformities. If I’m unable to source permission for them, I’m happy to recreate them --Z3375627 (talk) 07:55, 24 September 2014 (EST)

Definitely put that picture up about Omphalocele. That will work well because I'm talking about midgut herniation so if I talk about it in my stuff then I can just link it so that when you click on it goes down to the bottom of the page to where you talk about it in abnormalities. Not exactly sure how we do that but I'm sure we will work it out.--Z3415141 (talk) 13:02, 6 October 2014 (EST)

Hey all just wanted to note that when your referencing from now look at the editing page to see what mark does so that the references are footnotes down the bottom of the page. Obviously you will need to change the reference in the brackets but you get the point. This means that when you do this all the references will come up down the bottom of the page. --Z3415141 (talk) 23:34, 6 October 2014 (EST)

Not sure if we are supposed to get rid of the references that we used for our group assignment but I just did because they were taking up uneccesary space on our page. Just thought i would say this here just in case we were not meant to.--Z3415141 (talk) 09:17, 8 October 2014 (EST)

Everyone please take off your student signature from the group page as it looks unprofessional. Thanks guys and girls :) --Z3414515 (talk) 10:07, 8 October 2014 (EST)

References

Won Kyu Kim, Hyun Kim, Dae Ho Ahn, Myoung Hee Kim, Hyoung Woo Park Timetable for intestinal rotation in staged human embryos and fetuses. Birth Defects Res. Part A Clin. Mol. Teratol.: 2003, 67(11);941-5 PMID:14745932. I used this in describing midgut rotation.

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• References are missing from the overview section. Although it serves as an introduction, you can still include references to support what you're saying. Also, maybe the language of this section should be edited to be a bit more formal, like the 2nd sentence in particular
• GIT = Gastrointestinal tract, not track
• The hyphens between "foregut" etc are not needed
• The timeline is a good idea! Everything was simplified. Maybe look to see if you can add some images to this section
• Week 6 of timeline: I don't think a liver can "obtain" a colour. Look to change the wording
• Maybe to simplify the timeline section better, tabulate the findings according to time (weeks), rather than dividing it by the midgut, foregut and hind gut section. It makes it hard to follow
• Need some more work on the recent findings section. Just some tips, when researching on pubmed, there's an option to look at recent articles by customising dates to say 2012-onwards
• Many potentials for adding images to the "foregut" section. If you find that copyright is too difficult to get around, then you can sketch or trace images from textbooks and upload them
• Great effort with the drawn images in the "midgut" section! Be wary of colour choice though, as the green highlighter and blue pen can be a bit difficult to see. Otherwise think of adjusting contrast on the images to make the diagram stand out more
• Maybe think of adding a video from YouTube to show some features of GIT fetal development, like the rotations. If you do that, be sure to include the 11-digit cache code as your reference point