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--[[User:Z3332339|Z3332339]] ([[User talk:Z3332339|talk]]) 22:50, 4 October 2014 (EST) Marina: Hey Nardine, i really like that layout, hopefully we can get something similar to that going for us as well :) I'm sorry I havent been able to upload any images as the tab for me is unavailable, i emailed Dr mark about it though so hopefully that gets fixed soon.
--[[User:Z3332339|Z3332339]] ([[User talk:Z3332339|talk]]) 22:50, 4 October 2014 (EST) Marina: Hey Nardine, i really like that layout, hopefully we can get something similar to that going for us as well :) I'm sorry I havent been able to upload any images as the tab for me is unavailable, i emailed Dr mark about it though so hopefully that gets fixed soon.
--[[User:Z3332339|Z3332339]] ([[User talk:Z3332339|talk]]) 22:51, 4 October 2014 (EST) Marina: I was thinking of adding a heading titled "Glossary" what do you guys think of this?

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  • The following collapsed tables provide starting points for students during project work, you also have tutorials built into practical classes and practice exercises for individual assessmet items.
Group Assessment Criteria
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  1. The key points relating to the topic that your group allocated are clearly described.
  2. The choice of content, headings and sub-headings, diagrams, tables, graphs show a good understanding of the topic area.
  3. Content is correctly cited and referenced.
  4. The wiki has an element of teaching at a peer level using the student's own innovative diagrams, tables or figures and/or using interesting examples or explanations.
  5. Evidence of significant research relating to basic and applied sciences that goes beyond the formal teaching activities.
  6. Relates the topic and content of the Wiki entry to learning aims of embryology.
  7. Clearly reflects on editing/feedback from group peers and articulates how the Wiki could be improved (or not) based on peer comments/feedback. Demonstrates an ability to review own work when criticised in an open edited wiki format. Reflects on what was learned from the process of editing a peer's wiki.
  8. Evaluates own performance and that of group peers to give a rounded summary of this wiki process in terms of group effort and achievement.
  9. The content of the wiki should demonstrate to the reader that your group has researched adequately on this topic and covered the key areas necessary to inform your peers in their learning.
  10. Develops and edits the wiki entries in accordance with the above guidelines.
Uploading Images
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The following describes how to upload an image with all the information that must be associated with it.

The image must first be uploaded to the site.

  1. Open the left hand menu item “Toolbox” and click “Upload file” and a new window will open.
  2. Click the button ”Choose file” and navigate to where the image is located on your computer and double click the file.
  3. The window will now show the file name in the “Source filename” window.
  4. You can then rename the uploaded file in the “Destination filename” window.
    1. Make sure the new name accurately describes the image.
  5. Add a description of the image to the “Summary” window. Note the description must include:
    1. An image name as a section heading.
    2. Any further description of what the image shows.
    3. A subsection labeled “Reference” and under this the original image source, appropriate reference and all copyright information.
    4. Finally a template indicating that this is a student image. {{Template:Student Image}}

Images not including the above information will be deleted by the course coordinator and be considered in the student assessment process.

Students cannot delete uploaded images. Contact the course coordinator with the file address.

Referencing
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All references used in making your project page should be cited where they appear in the text or images.

In page edit mode where XXXX is the PubMed ID number use the following code.

<ref name=”PMIDXXXX”><pubmed>XXXX</pubmed></ref>

For references not listed on PubMed, and text can be inserted between <ref></ref> tags.

Where the reference list will appear make a new section and on a new line the following code. <references/>

Plagiarism
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Currently all students originally assigned to each group are listed as equal authors/contributors to their project. If you have not contributed the content you had originally agreed to, nor participated in the group work process, then you should contact the course coordinator immediately and either discuss your contribution or request removal from the group author list. Remember that all student online contributions are recorded by date, time and the actual contributed content. A similar email reminder of this information was sent to all current students.

Please note the Universities Policy regarding Plagiarism

In particular this example:

"Claiming credit for a proportion of work contributed to a group assessment item that is greater than that actually contributed;"

Academic Misconduct carries penalties. If a student is found guilty of academic misconduct, the penalties include warnings, remedial educative action, being failed in an assignment or excluded from the University for two years.


Please also read Copyright Tutorial with regard to content that can be used in your project.

Project Analysis 24 Sep
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--Mark Hill (talk) 09:57, 24 September 2014 (EST) Individual student data for each group has also been analysed.

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--Mark Hill (talk) 09:57, 24 September 2014 (EST) I have masked student ID.

  • Individual students will know how much work you have been doing to date.
  • I will be contacting those student on 5 edits or below.

2014 Student Projects: Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Group 4 | Group 5 | Group 6 | Group 7 | Group 8


--Mark Hill (talk) 17:54, 31 October 2014 (EST) These student projects have now been finalised and undergoing final assessment.

Group Assessment Criteria
  1. The key points relating to the topic that your group allocated are clearly described.
  2. The choice of content, headings and sub-headings, diagrams, tables, graphs show a good understanding of the topic area.
  3. Content is correctly cited and referenced.
  4. The wiki has an element of teaching at a peer level using the student's own innovative diagrams, tables or figures and/or using interesting examples or explanations.
  5. Evidence of significant research relating to basic and applied sciences that goes beyond the formal teaching activities.
  6. Relates the topic and content of the Wiki entry to learning aims of embryology.
  7. Clearly reflects on editing/feedback from group peers and articulates how the Wiki could be improved (or not) based on peer comments/feedback. Demonstrates an ability to review own work when criticised in an open edited wiki format. Reflects on what was learned from the process of editing a peer's wiki.
  8. Evaluates own performance and that of group peers to give a rounded summary of this wiki process in terms of group effort and achievement.
  9. The content of the wiki should demonstrate to the reader that your group has researched adequately on this topic and covered the key areas necessary to inform your peers in their learning.
  10. Develops and edits the wiki entries in accordance with the above guidelines.

--Z3333429 (talk) 16:13, 17 August 2014 (EST) Hey guys, it's Emanuel I've had a look into the systems and respiratory caught my interest. I wanted to do cardio but another group has already chosen it so I think we should choose a system ASAP.

Respiratory looks like it has plenty of resources and there are some interesting abnormalities gat I found on this page: Respiratory Abnormalities

Do you guys have any other systems you would like to do or do you like respiratory?

--Z3372817 (talk) 20:07, 17 August 2014 (EST) Hey Emanuel, its Ish here.

As we said on the day, we're fine with anything. So if it's still free, let's lock it in before another group claims it?

--Z3333429 (talk) 20:59, 17 August 2014 (EST) Alright awesome, well I guess we're the Respiratory group. How do we let Dr Hill know?

--Z3330991 (talk) 22:30, 17 August 2014 (EST) Hi guys, it's Nadine. I'm happy to do the respiratory system :) I'm sure we have to email him, I'll do that now, since we all seem to be on the same page and in agreement with the respiratory system.

--Z3330991 (talk) 22:56, 17 August 2014 (EST) Just emailed Dr Mark and put a heading "respiratory" on our group page :) Also we each need to pick one of the following;

  1. Review that system development during the fetal period.
  2. Identify current research models and finding.
  3. Identify historic findings.
  4. Identify abnormalities that can occur in this system during fetal period.

I'm happy to do number 1. Unless someone else wants to?

--Z3333429 (talk) 06:09, 18 August 2014 (EST)Thanks Nadine, I'll do number 4 if that's all good with you guys?

--Z3372817 (talk) 19:54, 18 August 2014 (EST) Great work with allocating Nadine. I'd love to do the historic findings (number 3) that sounds interesting! Only if that's okay with you all though?

--Z3332339 (talk) 15:17, 19 August 2014 (EST) Hey Guys! It's marina here :), I'm happy with number 2. If anyone comes across information for other parts of the project, let's let each other know :)

--Z3330991 (talk) 21:07, 26 August 2014 (EST)Hi guys its Nadine, just wanted to let you guys know that i added in subheadings to our page :) So feel free to add to your sections -pictures -articles -tables


--Z3332339 (talk) 23:58, 26 August 2014 (EST)Marina: Thanks Nadine :) I'm just going to add our names next to each section that we are looking at so its easier to communicate with with one another and who's doing what :)

  1. Review that system development during the fetal period-Nadine
  2. Identify current research models and finding-Marina
  3. Identify historic findings-Ish
  4. Identify abnormalities that can occur in this system during fetal period-Emanuel

--Z3333429 (talk) 12:58, 27 August 2014 (EST) Topics to cover

  1. Major stages of development - all fetal (only primordial embryonic development)
  2. Histological findings
  3. Separate into Functional elements (alveoli) and Tract (conducting system: upper and lower)
  4. Include diaphragm (musculoskeletal)
  5. Changes after birth


--Z3333429 (talk) 12:20, 2 September 2014 (EST) Emanuel: Hey guys just letting you know that I spoke to Dr Hill before the lecture with Carl from the cardio group about using review articles. He said we are allowed to use them as long as we refer to them appropriately (e.g as reviewed in..., according to review by..., etc). He also said that any direct findings need to be referenced from the original article and not a review article. We can reference to them as mentioned above and we can also add a subheading under references titled "review articles" if we want. When we start to formulate the page we can look at what previous projects have done when organising their review article references for ideas. In regards to using images from review articles - there is no need to cite them as coming from review article.


--Z3333429 (talk) 15:41, 2 September 2014 (EST) Emanuel: Hey guys just looking through the lecture and I noticed the part about the development of the pharynx. It develops with the foregut (oesophagus) of the GIT. What do you think if Nadine mentions that groups page in an appendix for her section to link the two pages? There is also a relationship between the development of the liver in wk7 that stops the descent of the heart and lungs so it could make our project more interesting in that it links out page with others offering a wider scope of information along with our specific topic.


--Z3332339 (talk) 11:37, 3 September 2014 (EST)Marina: Yeh I agree! I noticed that too Emanuel. The development of the oesophagus from the foregut and how it bifurcated from the common pharynx into the trachea is very much related to our topic. We can definitely include those relationships, and any others we come across


--Z3333429 (talk) 22:47, 9 September 2014 (EST) Emanuel: Hey Ish, just came across these articles regarding historical findings for pulmonary surfactant:

Surfactants: past, preset and future.

The era of pulmonary surfactant from Laplace to nowadays

Mary Ellen Avery and Jere Mead seem to be the godparents of surfactant discovery. I also noticed that there is a little tool on the right hand side of the pubmed page when you search for articles called "Results by year". It's a little bar graph showing which years had the most articles and you can click on each year to bring up it's articles. This might be helpful if your looking for articles that sparked an increase in research by clicking on the years just before the spikes in articles.

--Z3372817 (talk) 15:49, 16 September 2014 (EST) That is just amazing Emanuel, thanks! Just another thing I wanted to ask, I noticed you took notes when Mark came by to talk to our group at the last lab. When he was saying to focus on things like.. Yeah, do you mind just typing up what you had written. That would be so helpful!


--Z3332339 (talk) 23:33, 16 September 2014 (EST)Marina: Hey guys, just uploaded an image onto our page. It's under current research because its something scientists are looking at the moment with tracking abnormalities. The picture compares the normal structure of a lung to a couple of diseased ones. I know this also links to other parts of our project so we can shift it around later if need be. Mark wanted a picture uploaded before tomorrow, so at least we have something up there for now :)

--Z3330991 (talk) 12:13, 17 September 2014 (EST) Nadine here, just wanted to inform you that we have a new group assessment that will be marked individually we need to pick 2-3 research papers on stem biology and we need to summarize the paper and present it in week 12 as a group. You will get an email in regards to this set assignment, just thought I'd give you a head up.

--Z3333429 (talk) 12:44, 17 September 2014 (EST) Emanuel: This is for Ish, I found a link on the respiratory pages that should help you out. Just go to one of the pages (e.g Respiratory System - Abnormalities) and there is a 'Historic Embryology' link just after the introduction. It's small and in a blue box so click on it to expand. It has some really good links that will hopefully help you. Something else that was interesting was the disclaimer at the bottom of the links stressing that the content and scientific understanding are specific to the time of publication. You may want to ask Dr Hill if you need to include that at the bottom of the page to make sure that our audience does not get confused.

--Z3372817 (talk) 13:27, 17 September 2014 (EST) Ish: Yup, I've seen that Emanuel. I sort of wrote a paragraph along those lines as an introduction to my section which serves as a type of disclaimer too, but I'll reconfirm with Mark whether it's necessary to have anything in addition to that. Nadine, thanks for the heads up.

--Z3330991 (talk) 16:21, 1 October 2014 (EST) Nadine: Hey guys, just wanted to remind you that by the end of this week all information should up for your section. Make sure that references are included, pictures if needed.

--Z3372817 (talk) 20:34, 1 October 2014 (EST) Ish: Hey guys, anyone else having issues with the website lately? I'm trying to upload an image - can't. I completed my latest lab assessment a couple days ago and saved it - lost it. So just to be safe, once you've written everything you need down in your sections, copy and paste EVERYTHING into a separate word doc. Don't want you guys to lose hours of work like I did.

--Z3332339 (talk) 19:02, 3 October 2014 (EST) Marina: Hey Ish yeh im also having trouble with it as well. Even the "uploading image" button is inactive for me, apparently others are having as few problems with this as well. Can you guys check if you yours is visible at the moment? I know this must be recent as you guys have uploaded images and i was able to before. Maybe it has to do with the website change Dr Mark was talking about.

--Z3330991 (talk) 21:10, 4 October 2014 (EST) Nadine: Thanks Ish! i had the same problem happened twice to me! But it worked out for me in the end. So i have been looking around -projects from years before us and i really like this layout. Have a look if you get the chance [1]

--Z3332339 (talk) 22:50, 4 October 2014 (EST) Marina: Hey Nardine, i really like that layout, hopefully we can get something similar to that going for us as well :) I'm sorry I havent been able to upload any images as the tab for me is unavailable, i emailed Dr mark about it though so hopefully that gets fixed soon.

--Z3332339 (talk) 22:51, 4 October 2014 (EST) Marina: I was thinking of adding a heading titled "Glossary" what do you guys think of this?