Talk:2012 Group Project 1

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2012 Projects: Vision | Somatosensory | Taste | Olfaction | Abnormal Vision | Hearing


--Mark Hill 09:58, 18 September 2012 (EST) This is a recent review on vision. http://jcb.rupress.org/content/190/6/953.full JCB content allows reuse.

http://www.jove.com/video/3730/isolation-and-culture-of-human-fungiform-taste-papillae-cells

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2. History

  • Embryology History Explore the rich history of sensory research. In particular look through the available images that may complement the text. Any of this material can be used, you should cite the original paper or textbook. Gray | 1921 Bailey and Miller

  • Introduction
  • Research history?
  • Developmental time line?
  • Current research
  • Useful links
  • Glossary
  • Image gallery summary
  • References

Group discussion

Have you guys looked at some sources about the development of vision in embryos? Do you have any idea how you want to divide up the topics we can work on? --Z3370664 13:31, 21 August 2012 (EST)


Hey everyone, I haven't looked at anything yet, sorry! Hopefully end of this week/start of next I'll start adding things. Ben --Z3373894 19:33, 21 August 2012 (EST)


Heya. Thinking that we should do a time line rather than dividing up the different structures of the eye. Em --Z3254758 10:40, 22 August 2012 (EST)



I looked through all the embryology textbooks I have (the two prescribed texts, as well as another book) and they all divide up the eyes into different parts and talks about how each of the parts develop, rather than a timeline. So i was thinking, maybe we could focus more on describing how each of the different parts of the eye develop, and then we could do a timelime briefly at the end? (By the way, you're not supposed to mention your name) --Z3370664 10:21, 29 August 2012 (EST)


Sounds good. I have put a few suggestions for the different parts of the eye on the page. We need code-names if you don't want to put your name so that we know who is saying what. Please don't put any information on the actual page without referencing it.--Z3254758 10:45, 29 August 2012 (EST)


We also can't use content from Dr Hill's pages. The photos that are on our page are great, but we will have to replace them. We also desperately need to divide the sections between us. Maybe 2 people do 5 eye structures each, one person does intro and history, and another does current research and useful links? --Z3254758 11:45, 29 August 2012 (EST)


The textbooks are going to be really useful, I'd say divide it up the way the textbook does it. Sorry guys, didn't realise we can't use Mark's stuff. Will look for similar images later -.- --Z3373894 11:51, 29 August 2012 (EST)


Also I'm happy to do 5 eye structures :) I think. --Z3373894 11:56, 29 August 2012 (EST)


Okay guys, I'm doing retina and optic nerve, lens, eyelids, choroid and sclera. Em (z3254758) is doing the other structures (we can reassign if either of us find a structure that is excessively complicated). That leaves intro/history and current research/useful links. Also!!! I have to do a marine science camp in the mid sem break and so won't be available to make contributions. Sorry but I'll keep adding as soon as uni goes back. --Z3373894 12:13, 29 August 2012 (EST)


Awesome, no worries. Thanks for your contribution so far, let me know if we need to redistribute. Enjoy your camp! --Z3254758 16:08, 29 August 2012 (EST)


Hey guys I'm really sorry for the late notice but I've dropped this Embryology course. Tried logging on a few days ago to let you know what was going on but the server wouldn't connect. So sorry to stuff you all around. Goodluck with everything. Emma --Z3330686 10:55, 5 September 2012 (EST)



So does this mean we only have 3 people in our group now?

Anyway, I'm sorry i haven't contributed yet. I had been looking up articles and reading them to help you with the structures, but haven't written up notes yet, as I have so many other assignments to do that are all due soon. I am happy to do intro/history and current research/useful links. And after i do those parts, I can help you guys with the structures if there are any structures you're stuck with. I can help look for images too. I'll also do a brief timeline/overview of eye development after you guys finish the structures. I'll post up the links to the articles I found that you might find useful for the structures. --Z3370664 12:22, 10 September 2012 (EST)


Oh my goodness the more I research the more confused I get! I keep finding conflicting information- hence why some things are in capitals and italics and why I haven't put references for everything. Am hoping you guys can shed some light? For the iris I had one resource that said two completely opposite things about what it develops from :S :S :S


Yeah I know, I've had similar problems of conflicting sources :( I'm mostly relying on the online textbooks because surely they can't be wrong? And all the papers have a large emphasis on the gentics and it's hard to find a simple anatomical description. We can come back later and fix anything that's unresolved. --Z3373894 14:35, 17 September 2012 (EST)


P.S. nice eye collage at the top whoever posted it. Adds a nice human touch. It's really cool to look at! :)


yay I'm glad you like it! :) This is the problem, I was confused about the conflicting statements so I went to a textbook and that was what said the two different things... in the specific section it said one thing and then in the summary it said the opposite o_O trying a few other textbooks at the moment. Ya am very sick of reading about genetics.--Z3254758 21:49, 17 September 2012 (EST)


I emailed the development journal and they gave me permission to use the images from the following journal article:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2778739/?tool=pmcentrez

So i'll add those images to our project.

--Z3370664 23:04, 17 September 2012 (EST)


Potential Resources

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--Z3254758 17:58, 4 September 2012 (EST)



Lhx2 links the intrinsic and extrinsic factors that control optic cup formation: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2778739/?tool=pmcentrez

Innervation of the Mouse Cornea during Development: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3053279/?tool=pmcentrez

Fibromodulin Regulates Collagen Fibrillogenesis During Peripheral Corneal Development: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2965449/?tool=pmcentrez

Development of extraocular muscles require early signals from periocular neural crest and the developing eye: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3248700/?tool=pmcentrez


Eye Morphogenesis and Patterning of the Optic Vesicle: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2958684/?tool=pmcentrez

Targeted deletion of Dicer disrupts lens morphogenesis, corneal epithelium stratification, and whole eye development: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2787093/?tool=pmcentrez

Anterior eye development and ocular mesenchyme: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2094210/?tool=pmcentrez

--Z3370664 12:31, 10 September 2012 (EST)