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ok I have chuck in the spina bifida and anencephaly detection in there, I would have the Down Syndrome detection up soon as well. I will help find pictures of thoses disorders as well and have them up as soon as possible. (Note to self: remember to edit the AFP in pregnancy so it doesn't overlap with the disorder section)
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--Mark Hill 00:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC) OK guys, its now time to get going with this. You need to have significant content added to all sections on your project page before this weeks lab. Still no related images or student drawn figure here.

You need to have this updated before this weeks lab when I will be reviewing all projects.

--Mark Hill 04:52, 23 August 2010 (UTC)OK so there is some discussion here. I need the major subheadings to be added before this weeks lab and there should be some thought to the content within each section. Still no related images here.


--Mark Hill 22:56, 11 August 2010 (UTC) Well group 6 where is your work that should have been done before this week's Lab?

Hey guys, ive only really done some light background research about alpha-fetaprotein testing via wiki/google/journal articles hehe :P


Anyway, i forgot to save the links i got for the journal articles ive already printed off, but i’ll stick up their titles which can be found easily, and i’ll basically summarise the info we can use from them anyway and stick it up so we can sift through it all.


The journal articles that i remembered to save links to are as follows:

First-trimester maternal serum alpha-fetoprotein as a marker for fetal chromosomal disorders - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/pd.1970141012/abstract


--Mark Hill 04:54, 23 August 2010 (UTC) Here is the Pubmed link for the above paper http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7534926 This is how to cite it using the current website (look at the page in edit mode):

<pubmed>7534926</pubmed>


And this is how to reference it in the body of your project page.[1]


to appear in a reference list

  1. <pubmed>7534926</pubmed>



Amniotic fluid alpha-fetoprotein is not a useful biological marker of pregnancy outcome - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/%28SICI%291097-0223%28199911%2919:11%3C1031::AID-PD684%3E3.0.CO;2-7/abstract

The value of early third-trimester maternal serum alpha-fetoprotein determination - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/pd.1970100308/abstract

Reduced fetal hepatic alpha-fetoprotein levels in Down' s syndrome - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/pd.1970101108/abstract

Very low versus undetectable maternal serum alpha-fetoprotein values and fetal death - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/pd.1970070605/abstract

I don’t know what you guys had in mind for splitting the work etc, but as it is, im quite happy to just get info, and slowly just add info the main page as it goes and let it slowly evolve from constant editing of stuff etc. And if anyone had clashes of ideas etc, then just fix/change a section and stick it up as well and we can all just edit passages as we see fit after some discussion hehe


so you guys know what other articles im looking at, so we don’t really double up on info, are as follows: The effectiveness of prenatal serum biomarker screening for neural tube defects in 2nd trimester pregnant women

Msaf values in type ½ diabetic patients

2nd trim. Msaf elevation and its association with adverse maternal/fetal outcome

Afp in the early neonatal period

Structure and function of afp

ps - i most likely will just play around with headings etc on the main page...and if i put info up there in point form its not really the main text, just a quick point of ref. for what info i may or may not stick up etc as well as just general format testing haha ^_^

--3186755 15:56, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi everyone, yeh I think its a good idea to compile information and research before the next lab and go through it together before we designate certain areas to one another. I'll try to get through some of the articles that are up to get an idea of how we are going to divide the work up. Possible categories:

1) Introduction to how it is carried out, history, developements. 2) How the test works, what is used or tested. 3) What the test is looking for, diseases, syndromes, dissorders. 4) Any problems or flaws the test has, effectiveness, contempory issues.

We should discuss more in depth during the lab, put up any more ideas for subheadings that we should use.

Thanks

--3290040 12:31, 17 August 2010 (UTC)


Hey guys,

I’m still in the research stage with this assignment, I think we really need to come up with a specific outline or structure for the assignment so the work can be divided up soon.

This structure is similar to the previous one mentioned above:introduction and background information on prenatal testing, what is alpha-fetoprotein how it is made by the foetus etc, the diseases that could be tested, history of maternal alpha- fetoprotein testing, accuracy etc.I don’t think there is much information on the procedure or ethical issues on this topic as they are not so relevant.

Here are two links The first one is some general research done on rats. I’m not sure if you guys want to use it?!!

www.reproduction-online.org/cgi/reprint/48/1/1.pdf

reducing invasive testing by using maternal serum alpha-fetoprotein testing. We could use it to compare some benefits of a non-invasive test.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM199404213301603

--z3254433 11:28, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys,

I think right now we have come up with the basic lay out of the site, I suggest that we split up the parts in our next lab class and if we come across anything that are specific for our assignment and think it's worthwhile to put in the site as well we can do that as we go along. These are some of the articles that I have been looking at:

MATERNAL SERUM ALPHA-FETOPROTEIN MEASUREMENT: A SCREENING TEST FOR DOWN SYNDROME - http://storage0.nun.unsw.edu.au/cgi-bin/Data/db.cgi?db=fulltexttest&uid=default&view_records=1&url=http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=GatewayURL&_origin=SFX&_method=citationSearch&_volkey=01406736%23323%23926&_version=1&md5=b96bddefb297298958f38399471d082b&Address=http://www.sciencedi

MATERNAL SERUM α-FETOPROTEIN—A MARKER OF FETAL APLASTIC CRISIS DURING INTRAUTERINE HUMAN PARVOVIRUS INFECTION - http://storage0.nun.unsw.edu.au/cgi-bin/Data/db.cgi?db=fulltexttest&uid=default&view_records=1&url=http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=GatewayURL&_origin=SFX&_method=citationSearch&_volkey=01406736%23329%23433&_version=1&md5=e7e29728e20dd0ed4956e51eb02c2128&Address=http://www.sciencedi

PRENATAL DIAGNOSIS OF SPINA BIFIDA AND ANENCEPHALY BY MATERNAL SERUM-ALPHA-FETOPROTEIN MEASUREMENT : A Controlled Study - http://storage0.nun.unsw.edu.au/cgi-bin/Data/db.cgi?db=fulltexttest&uid=default&view_records=1&url=http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=GatewayURL&_origin=SFX&_method=citationSearch&_volkey=01406736%23303%23765&_version=1&md5=bc4a8ecfac6aea060269fd3858638b59&Address=http://www.sciencedi

Alpha-fetoprotein Information, chemical composition, quantition, Standardization of AFP assay etc. - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-3083.1978.tb03896.x/pdf

Overview - http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B83W2-4TX314K-5&_user=1975841&_coverDate=09%2F30%2F2008&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000004218&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=1975841&md5=a7bfedcf9c80ddcf5994434da0c82603&searchtype=a

--3216889 10:56, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

hey guys,

i just put up a very rough and incomplete outline of the subheading that we can have for our assignment, so if you have any subheading you would like to add or edit those that i have put up please do so.

also if anyone has any relevant picture that we can use please post them up.

cheers.

--z3254433 23:55, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

hey, i just stuck up some basic background stuff on afp that is prety much just a dump of info so we can use it how we see fit :) hopefully will be able to add some other stuffs under the diff headings etc ^_^

--3186755 14:16, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

hey guys, just sending you a pictures via email that i drew but i think it might breach copyright so if you can edit it so that its not that would be great, also I'm uploading other pictures that i have drawn on our site. if you find any pictures that aren't copyright please post them up because i can't seem to find any!!!

--z3254433 05:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

ok I have chuck in the spina bifida and anencephaly detection in there, I would have the Down Syndrome detection up soon as well. I will help find pictures of thoses disorders as well and have them up as soon as possible. (Note to self: remember to edit the AFP in pregnancy so it doesn't overlap with the disorder section)


--3216889 13:52, 12 September 2010 (UTC)----