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  move the image a little higher or enter down some spaces so that the timelines section is lower and the nature article doesn't come over the images pushing the table to the left! Let me know what you  
  move the image a little higher or enter down some spaces so that the timelines section is lower and the nature article doesn't come over the images pushing the table to the left! Let me know what you  
  all think. Sal
  all think. Sal
Hey Sal, your part of the project looks great! I really like the idea of clicking onto another page to get the info. works really really well and it's really easy to understand. As for the size of the picture obscuring your section, I think that you already thumbnailed it and it looks fine. Also, do you know how to put a youtube video onto the webpage? I was able to for a project in another class and it looked good but that was much easier because it had a link to a bunch of plug ins i could use. If anyone has any ideas please let me know! Gaby

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--Mark Hill 01:44, 8 September 2009 (EST) A single image of a fish, well that really gets across the message of zebrafish development, interpret the information you have read and put it into a format that will interest the reader.

ZebraFish - Zebrafish are really cool...

I'm happy with zebrafish... never heard of them but they sound interesting :) what does everyone else think? ...Gaby Pinget

Great, who else is in our group then... Oh and i'm Sal by the way

Ok so i'm not sure who the other two are because i don't know your number but just for reference my number is z3218657. I found this cool website with some pictures of Zebrafish embryo's developing... its pretty cool...

http://www.cas.vanderbilt.edu/bioimages/animals/danrer/zfish-devel.htm

and this website shows all the stages and times and such good for a timeline

http://zfin.org/zf_info/zfbook/stages/stages.html


Research Topics for this week:

- Timeline and Staging (Sal)
- History of Model Use (Gaby)
- Genetics (Bronwyn)
- Current Embryology Research (Jo)

--> Share what we've learnt with the group next session.

Hey Guys I have a lot of info... and i don't think i should post it all up here because there is a lot of stuff... Mainly all about the Staging though. I am going to put up a summary of the different stages. The website i gave you before ZFIN is the zebrafish database of model organisms. its great!


Zygote Period – Lasts for 0-0.75hours Transition of one cell to two cells. Fertilisation occurs activating cytoplastimic movement. The animal poles within the cell segregate the blastodisc from the yolk cytoplasm. Segregation continues into the cleavage staging.

Cleavage Period – Lasts for 0.75-2.25 hours Transition from two cells to 128 cells After the first cleavage the blastocysts division is approx every 15 minutes.

Blastula Period – Lasts for 2.25-5.25 hours Transition from 128 cells to 50% epibolby “Epiboly, beginning in the late blastula (Solnica-Krezel and Driever, 1994), is the thinning and spreading of both the YSL and the blastodisc over the yolk cell, as you might model by pulling a knitted ski cap over your head” – Direct quote from the ZFIN website

Gastrula Period – Lasts for 5.25-10.33 hours Transition from 50% epibolby to 1-4 somites The gastrula period ends when epiboly is complete, and the tail bud has formed. Here each germ layer (endoderm, mesoderm, ectoderm) is put in the right place so that bodily organs and tissues can form in the correct locations.

Segmentation period – Lasts from 10.33 – 24 hours Transistion from 1-4 somites to Prim-5 Here dermis, vertebrae and skeletal muscle are formed

Pharyngula Period – Lasts from 24 – 48 hours Transition from Prim 5 to Long-pec The body axis begins to straighten and the fins begin to develop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hGT667ktTw

Hatching Peroid – Last from 48 to 72hours Transitions from Long-Pec to Protruding-mouth In this period, primary organ systems develop and cartilage development begins.

Larval Period – Lasts from 72hours to 30days transition from Protruding-mouth to Day 30-44 The pectoral fin continues to develop and the internal organs become more complex. Development continues.

Juvenille Period – Lasts from 30-44 days Here adult fins and pigments as well as 12 teeth develop.

AdultPeriod – Lasts90days to 2 years Full Breeding Adult.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ygcu9BRXI0 - Zebrafish heart beating!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbErcmhzUSY - alcohol effects on Zebrafish embryo

Websites used http://dev.biologists.org/cgi/content/abstract/dev.022673v1

http://www.zfic.org/classroom%20experiments/stagingindex.html

http://zfin.org/zf_info/zfbook/stages/stages.html


Hey! This is a really good site with a bunch of links relating to the different areas we have to research: http://www.sanger.ac.uk/modelorgs/zebrafish.shtml

Hey guys.... Ive found a really good picture of the zebrafish embryo development (like the human one) but I dont know how to put it up, was thinking it might be better if it was actually on the page rather than a link to get the picture. JO


well I think that I just uploaded a picture but I have no idea where to... wow I'm so lost... Maybe that's a good thing because I have a feeling that it was copy right protected... DAMN COPY RIGHT ah ha ha


Hey all, all the websites that i have put up on this page have really good images... I have emailed the three of them and asked if it was ok if i used them to put up on here and i am awaiting a reply so   
hopefully they will let us use them. Also i am having a tonne and a half of trouble uploading a InDesign Timeline image i created of the timeline and also having some issues with the net so i might 
bring them to class and see if the computers there are readable other wise i am screwed and will just have to start all over again. I have a more complete Timeline and Staging format that i have 
created as well. I'll put that up when i try and upload the image again. Peace. - Sal


Hey Hey So I got permission from Judy Cebra-Thomas to use all her images on her website which are each stage of development - YAY we just have to accredit them. So today apart from working on 
unwinding my InDesign TImeline and putting the info up in bullets i am going to start to figure out whats happening in all the images and try an upload them onto the site so hopefully tomorrow we 
will have an almost finished timeline and staging section! - Sal

Right so I've posted a link to the current sequencing status on the genetics part of our site. This updates pretty much everyday so I will be able to update ours right before submission so we have up-to-date info. This is however a minor detail so I'm writing it here to help us all remember! :) thanks


Hey guys!! please read this: I put up pictures which are really just to make it look pretty rather than add any info. Can you please tell me if you think they're stupid or not serious enough? I promise that I wont be offended! I understand if any of you think that we should take our assignment more seriously than that... it's just hard to find images for a history of zebrafish use!


I dont really get the light bulb lol. Sally were u able to get the embryo stage images as a link to the info as u wanted???? I think its a really good idea if we could do it, i think it might be a matter of asking someone who's actually good with computers to do it lol. Im still complying info for the current research section, currently in qld but i wanna have it up hopefully by this week, at least part of it anyways. Im gonna try n get some pictures but every place that ive asked think im an actual doctor lol so its been a bit hard.

Ok so not quite sure how to do the linking but i might just make it all link off the page into separate little pages... does that make sense??? Probably not but i can try explain it better on thursday. The 
images take me 1.5hours each to upload because i have to make the image in indesign, Grab it and then transform the image to a PNG file as that is one that this website allows for uploading! So they 
are coming up but ever so slowly! When i got permission to use the images i just told them I was a student studying Advance Science from UNSW. I was enrolled in an embryology course there where 
we were doing an assignment on the Embryology of Zebrafish. Could i please use your images with referencing and a link to your webpage or document. Thats kind of what i said! i'm hoping to have it 
all up and ready on thursday but might have to finish it friday night as have friends down from QLD that tend to make my place messy and have a house inspection on that ARVO!!! - Cheers SAL

Hey Sally, just so u know. I moved the websites you used to the references section so it didnt seem odd to keep it after ur info.

Hey Sally, we were thinkin about whether or not we could mix the timeline with the stages, so we thought that maybe if on the actual page we had the timeline with the pictures, then by clicking on the pictures there would be the info that u got or maybe even putting it all into a table so the pictures & info are more integrated.


Hey guys sorry i wasn't in class yesterday i had a funeral. What i was thinking of doing was actually moving all the data off the page and you click on it to go to another page which as all the info! but  
the idea of clicking on the picture and going to it sounds great. One flaw is that is it ok if i use the pictures twice because i have been cutting, altering, adding text and flattening the images so that 
they have a caption of what is happening. If i just cut another image to show each stage and then you click on that to go to it i think that could be cool as long as when you open the next page it still 
has the information and the image with the caption of what is occurring! Hope thats ok. I will work on it all tonight and hopefully finish. Its taking a lot more time than expect sorry!Sal


hey Guys so I don't know if you guys have checked the website out yet but i have been working on it today! I continued what i was doing with the linked page and have also drawn my own diagrams 
which are colour coded and easy for people to understand what is going on during the stages. I thought it looked cool. I haven't finished yet - a few more periods to go but i can't look at the screen 
any more so i will do some on tuesday night! Hope thats ok. Just wondering though about the Nature article images above it kind of comes across the screen and i was wondering if we could somehow 
move the image a little higher or enter down some spaces so that the timelines section is lower and the nature article doesn't come over the images pushing the table to the left! Let me know what you 
all think. Sal


Hey Sal, your part of the project looks great! I really like the idea of clicking onto another page to get the info. works really really well and it's really easy to understand. As for the size of the picture obscuring your section, I think that you already thumbnailed it and it looks fine. Also, do you know how to put a youtube video onto the webpage? I was able to for a project in another class and it looked good but that was much easier because it had a link to a bunch of plug ins i could use. If anyone has any ideas please let me know! Gaby